Correlation of Serato Crates, RB2.0 Folders and RB Playlist


#1

My Rekord Buddy Version:
2.0

My OS Version:
Mac OSX

Steps required to reproduce the problem:

  1. Crate in Serato that has music in it, but also sub crates that have different music in them
  2. RB2.0 Sync; should show the songs in both crates
  3. Sync; RB doesn’t should music in Upper Crate

What I expected to happen:
All music from all crates being added to RB program, not just the subcrates as playlist

What actually happens instead:

The main crate appears as a folder in RB2.0; which doesn’t sync with RB


#2

This is caused by a limitation in both rekordbox and Traktor, which don’t support having both tracks and playlists in a playlist. It’s not something we can change, I’m afraid.


#3

Well… if Pioneer or Native want to share their source code, I’ll take a crack at it. :rofl:


#4

What I’ll probably have to look into is at least importing the information correctly in the future. So that if you do import a crate from Serato that has both other crates and tracks inside of it, it does actually import both (probably converting the information into a separate Playlist/Folder pair with different names like MyCrate [Playlist] and MyCrate [Folder].)

Would that be helpful?


#5

So the top crate in Serato (for instance)

*Rap
-Crunk
-Southern
-East Coast
-West Coast

Rap is the "Headline crate; those songs under Rap doesn’t come over; but RB2.0 sees them as a Folder rather than a playlist, in fact, anything that has a sub create, the above crate turns into a Folder rather than a playlist)

RB2.0 has the tracks; seems them all, but doesn’t/can’t(?) import those top crates with any music.

RekordBox; within the XML sees them, but nothing gets transferred from RB2.0

If RB2.0 could makes them into a playlist…at least you’d have them in when you transfer them, might not be in the “exact” order/style, but you wouldn’t be missing songs.


#6

What you are describing is exactly the way it works right now.

My proposed solution would be to import the Serato data as:

*Rap [Playlist]
*Rap [Folder]
  -Crunk
  -Southern
  -East Coast
  -West Coast

So that both subcrates and tracks are imported in a way that other programs like rekordbox or Traktor can work with and display.

Thoughts?


#8

That will work, having the entire rap with suggested as just one playlist with tracks nested under rap and tracks within the subcrates.

When making crates in Serato often time I may start the crate as just a crate then decide to be more specific by adding subcrates to a crate already containing tracks.

Serato has us spoilt by showing all tracks if one clicks on the parent crate which I don’t think other Traktor and Rekordboxdj do


#9

its a bit sad that some DJ software doesn’t support the simple dynamics introduced by all Operating Systems since CP/M:

  • folders contain sub-folders
  • folders contain tracks

instead we have a tricky annoying additional indirection:

  • folders contain sub-folders
  • folders contain playlists
  • playlists contain tracks

#10

I think some people may have different approaches to this. I for one don’t like the Serato way of hiding tracks in folders because I never think of clicking on the folder to show the tracks inside of it.

But I do see your point of it mimicking what the OS does so that makes sense.